Other options on AC

I dont have $1000+ to spend on a rood AC unit, and i live in Texas, so AC is crucial. I guess my options are drilling a hole and installung a window unit or drilling a smaller hole for the vent of a portable standing unit

I was wondering whos done this or has other options and the result.

I have a 2020 transit cargo ext high roof.

Ive also seen like truck AC units for like 200 and some DC units for like 500

Sometimes down here we hust drill a couple holes in a cooler and use a fan in one to make a ghetto AC but i feel like that much moisture could be an issue

Thanks

Edit. Im not putting windows in just a maxfan delux. The thought is lots of insulation and AC to combat the 100+ degree weather

Greetings!

The indirect style of swamp coolers do not add moisture to the air like the direct style does. The indirect style uses a radiator for the heat exchanger just like a compressor style a/c does, and it exhausts the moist air back outside of the the van. I set mine up to sit on the passenger seat and utilize an open passenger window. Works beautifully and uses under 2a @ 12vdc.

A second option is a peltier powered unit. It’s basically the same as the indirect swamp cooler described above, except it uses a peltier chip to heat/cool the water running through the radiator instead of evaporation. This eliminates the need for water refills, but uses slightly more power, 5a @ 12vdc. Since it doesn’t utilize evaporation, it does not require an open window. By reversing the polarity, they can also provide energy efficient heat.

Another option is non electrical, and uses a frozen container of water, something like a 1 gallon milk jug or larger, a sheet of aluminum foil (several layers thick works better), and heat powered wood stove fan. These fans are powered by a peltier chip, and cold can power them as well as heat, which then generates the power for the fan. You place the ice jug on the foil, with the fan in front of it also on the foil. The cold is transferred to the fan via the foil. Local convenience stores will usually happily freeze the ice jugs for you, and they typically last 24+ hours.

Dry ice in one cooler can also turn it into a freezer, and you can use it to freeze water jugs for a second cooler, or the above ice cooler. The frozen jugs prevent swamped food problems as well, because the melt water is contained.

For sleeping, non electric cooling blankets & sheets are also available.

Typical electric a/c’s just don’t really make much sense for most nomads, but we have many other better options available anyway.

Cheers!


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Simple is cheaper and more reliable."
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Thanks!thank you for the input!

I built the peltier on a small scale. I will be testing it out when it warms up here in Texas. Ill let you know how that goes.

However…I am interested in the non electrical one with foil works? Do you have a link or pic of one? Texas heat and humidity are brutal!

Greetings!

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Cheers!


"Life can be as simple or as complicated as you make it.
Simple is cheaper and more reliable."
~ Off Grid


Hi VD, I’m hoping you have a picture of your indirect swamp cooler that you sit in the passenger seat. any or all info on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance!

Greetings & Welcome!

I seem to be having trouble uploading pictures at the moment, so I’ll try again later.

Cheers!


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Greetings & Welcome!

Sorry, I don’t currently have it with me, and I don’t have pictures. I’m currently using a peltier heat pump for heating/cooling.

It was built using a tall kitchen trash can, like below, with the goal of sitting it on the passenger seat, being tall enough to utilize the window, and to have a large water capacity to require refilling less often.


Here’s some directions:

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Mind sharing on what state do you live? I been reading everything I can find on cooling for my conversion and swamp coolers are said to be ineffective in humid conditions. I am in So. Florida so it is a crucial part of my build.
Thank you.

Greetings!

I’ve used my swamp coolers successfully all over the hot & humid SE including S Miami. The heat exchanger (radiator) is what makes the difference between an evaporative cooler & swamp cooler. Swamp coolers were designed to work in the hot & humid swamps, evaporative coolers were designed to be used in the desert, but people still refer to them as swamp coolers.

With a swamp cooler, the moisture is expelled back outside, just like a compressor a/c, and the air is cooled by passing through a radiator style heat exchanger, just like a compressor a/c. The only power required is for the fan and a small fountain pump, so it is very energy efficient.

Depending upon your situation and needs, there are many ways to keep cool. You can buy non powered cooling sheets, blankets, & pillow cases if you only need it to sleep, or they have powered ones too. I have both, along with heating/cooling/massaging seat cushions, of which I use one as a mattress pad.

Heating/cooling clothes are also available. They were a lifesaver when I was working outdoors in extreme weather. They use a rechargeable battery pack.

There are cooling accessories like those made by Frog Togs, that require no power.

You can also stick a fan in front of a frozen 1 gallon jug of water, and it will last for many hours. Convenience stores will often freeze them for you for free, and in a cooler they’ll last the better part of a week.

Now, I’m using a Peltier powered heat pump. It’s basically the same as a swamp cooler, but instead of using evaporation to cool the water, it uses a peltier chip to heat/cool the water, just like they do in the office water coolers that offer both hot & cold water. Mine uses 3-6 amps @ 12vdc, and will cool my rig by up to 50°F.

Don’t forget to park in the shade whenever possible as well. Parking near water is usually cooler as well.

I almost forgot to mention misting fans, you can buy hand held ones at many dollar stores, or big box stores. Alternatively any spray bottle & fan can work wonders as well. A damp T shirt or PJ’s and a fan aimed at you can chill you to the bone.

There’s tons of ways to keep cool, and it can be cheap & easy. Of course the promoters won’t promote it, because they can’t get paid for actually giving good advice. I make my money the old fashioned way by actually earning it, so I can afford to tell people the truth.

People knew how to keep cool long before electricity & batteries. What worked 100+ years ago still works just as well as it did then. Cowboys wore wet bandannas around their necks… Don’t get discouraged, there are plenty of ways to keep cool.

Cheers!


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Thank you for your detailed reply! Can you point out to plans how to build one or if there is one already made? I searched in google for Peltier heat exchanger but no too much luck, they seem an eletronic piece that I don’t know what to do with it and less how tp make a cooler with it.

Greetings!

Try googling “peltier heat pumps”…

I’ve seen them for sale at RV shows, and they’re typically much cheaper to purchase than an a/c.

Sorry, I don’t have plans for one, and I’m not very electronically inclined. A peek inside doesn’t look very complicated, but I don’t know for sure what the different components are.

Cheers!


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& creative solutions for the win." ~ Old_Soul