NOOB Electrics?

Hello all. Glad to be newly part of Vanlife. I have a beginners question - I’m about to start the electrics. I have a few bits already, but I can’t really find a decent diagram for a system that doesn’t have solar. I’m not going to be in the van for much more than a night here and there, and any longer will be on a site with hook up. So, to keep things simple, I’m going for the following:

130AH leisure battery
Split charge relay
Small 12v system (coolbox, lights, 13a inverter)
240v Hook up 16a to the van, then 2 sockets.

My plan is to be able to charge the leisure on the split relay, then from 240v when plugged in.

That’s a s far as I’ve got… any help would be amazing. What do I need? What are my errors.

Thanks all.

Dave

Hi @djpriddle and welcome!

What you have described so far are just a few of the basics you will need. I would add that some of the most important devices on any electrical system (especially on low voltage DC systems) are the protection and isolation devices. You should also consider at least having a protection device installed in the van for the 240V AC as it adds one more layer of protection if you are plugged in, but for it to work, make sure the earthing has been correctly done.

As far as your inverter goes, don’t just buy the biggest and most powerful just because it is. Instead, work out your total maximum load potential and with a general rule of thumb, buy an inverter with “twice” the capacity. (ie maximum load potential is 500w, you will normally only need at the very most, a 1000w inverter)

Most inverters will use some amount of standby current when switched on which will result in eventual discharge of your leisure battery if you aren’t able to charge it for any reason.

That said, you could consider and inverter/charger all-in-one set up which will charge the battery while plugged in. Some inverter/charger units, when plugged in, will also run the van 240V AC system on bypass, giving the batteries a rest.

On a side note but still relevant…

To give an idea of the potential loading on your battery while running for example, a 160w slow cooker, and including the operating current while the inverter is switched on, my battery monitor shows a current draw of around 11-12 amps. So running this for around four hours (average time it takes to cook one of my meals) will take up to 50 amps from the battery. This is why I am either plugged in or charging from my alternator when I use the slow cooker.

A note on charging from the alternator, you will only be able to use a split charge relay on a van fitted with an old style non-smart alternator. However, if your van is fitted with a smart alternator as most are these days, you will need a DC to DC charger to charge the leisure battery.

As far as wiring goes…

For the 12V DC system it is important to consider the maximum current that will be passing through the wires and buy the correct size of wire. The term SWG is normally used to measure wire size. Incidentally, it is not only the minimum safe size of wire you should consider, but also the minimum size at which the current can be efficiently carried along the wire. This means it would be a good idea to increase your wire size from the recommended minimum to the next size up at the very least.

From what you describe of the 240V AC system, this is a standard basic caravan setup which in most cases would only require a three core wire with a cross sectional area of somewhere between 1.5 mm and 2mm squared.

So you can keep an eye on the system’s performance, it is also advisable to include a simple battery monitor.

I’ll leave it at that for now so you can go and do some research on what might be best for you…

I hope this helps.

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Brilliant. Thank you very much. As soon as I type “Caravan Electrics” into google - it showed me more of what I was looking for. I’ve got a MK6 Transit - so I doubt its a smart alternator. I think it still runs by clockwork. So, if my basic research is correct, I need some big fuses 50a (to the main 12v fuse box) and 100a (to the batteries). A bus bar. And an RCD with 16a mcb & 6a mcb for the shore power?

If thats correct, I only have one more question? 12v/20a battery charger? Does that come off the 6a mcb and into the leisure battery? Presumably that only works when plugged in to the site connectors and charges when the van is off only?

Here is the diagram I have found which seems right? Do I need on/off kill switches inline as well for added safety?

Thank you for your information and thanks in advance.

Dave