Kind of new here... Starting research

Hello, my name is nick, and i live in southern Illinois in a small town called Alton.

I bought this back in 2021 as I had planned on doing this, but life had other plans at the time. Im now in a spot where I want to start planning to do my van build and in the research phase, as I want to make sure I have a good idea of what I’m getting myself into.

What are some things that some of you wish you would have known / should have done now that you have lived in your van for some time?

looking forward to connecting with everyone here

Hey, welcome to this community

@leostewart319 Thank you for the welcome. I have wanted to do this for close to five years now, and with rising living costs, it just seems to make sense.

While my work isn’t fully remote, I’ve been working on learning skills to be only remote-based so that I can do this and earn from my van.

I’m going to look at some vans today if I can find any in my area. I’m not able to buy one yet, but it will help me get a feel for things in terms of actual space.

I’m getting a lot of ideas for what I want to build from YouTube and here.

Greetings & Welcome!

I think the best bang for the buck is to start out with a really cheap older Class C motorhome. There are still tons of them from the mid 70’s. Given the choice, I actually pefer them to DIY and they’re move in ready. Contrary to the BS the promoters want you to believe, an actual obvious RV is also much more stealthy than a cargo van. Nobody finds someone camping in a camper as unusual or suspicious. It’s when you try to hide that you become suspicious.

All this DIY stuff is pushed by the promoters & influencers for THEIR gain, not yours. Even when doing a DIY, the best and most complete conversions cost hundreds not thousands.

I bought a gutted 1973 Dodge Travco camper van for $700. It ran perfect, and had just over 200k miles on it. The promoters had convinced the owner to gut it and then rebuild it. They even came and carefully gutted it for him. Once gutted, he realized he was in over his head, and bought an intact identical one. I bought it, and reconverted it to camper van for +/- $300 all in for everything, power, 4 season climate control, kitchen, wet bath, sofa/bed, and a lazy boy swivel rocker recliner to lounge/work in. I used the 4R method (Recycle, Reuse, Repurpose, & Reimagine) keeping everything modular and portable, but secured. In 12 years, I put over 300k trouble free miles on it. Those old Dodge 318 engines run forever.

A friend is living & traveling in a 1976 Dodge American Clipper Class C, about 20 foot in length, and will fit in a normal parking space. It also has the 318 engine, and is pushing 400k miles on the original engine & transmission. He paid $1500 for it, move in ready and ready to roll. There are many great deals out there if you look for them.

Most people who DIY are on their 3rd or 4th build, costing big bucks, and still never as comfortable or convenient as a factory camper. With many years of experience, I know what I want or need, but with newbies it takes time & experience to figure it out. In the meantime, a factory camper is a much easier transition, and much cheaper than any DIY project. That dirt cheap factory camper will allow you to move in much quicker, and start stacking the cash it’s saving you. You can always do a DIY later if you really want to.

Most people switch away from DIY to factory campers for the comfort, convenience, & stealth, and the older RV’s were built in a time when quality was still important, and their simplicity adds greatly to their reliability. I use them as they were intended, and don’t add solar, or expensive batteries, etc. They didn’t need any of that garbage when they were new, they don’t need it now, and you don’t need the added expense for no added benefits.

I don’t believe in showers at gyms, or always using frequently disgusting public toilets. My homes on wheels are complete & comfortable. That isn’t nearly as easy with a DIY build, when the manufacturers have already spent millions to perfect their systems & layouts. My ego prefers comfort, reliability, and saving money, over the feeling of doing a DIY build.

Cheers!


"A wise man learns from both the successes & failures of others." ~ Off Grid


Hey vandalia Illinois here. Anyhow I found that all of the factory built vans have 2 little space. Way too much stuff jutting out in the walkway. So what we did is bought an older sprinter van and made it exactly how we like. You can get by on the cheap going to thrift stores and habitat for humanity restores. The electrical will cost you but there is no around that

Very helpful infomation here. For me, I don’t need much. That said, I would need solar power as I will need solid power for the work I’ll be doing from the van. I know this will add to the expense, but I already know this going in will be an expense for me.

I might find a middle ground and get a class C and retrofit that to work for me, as the shower and bathroom thing is a big deal. i have been in a shower in an RV before and hated how small it was so building one likely isn’t going to be with it for me.

So, I plan to get one of the outdoor showers I can use inside the van on cold days, with some creativity in the draining and venting for the water. The Bathroom part is the tricky one, as I want to try and avoid a composting toilet.

Quality isn’t what it used to be, that’s for sure. One thing I do have to my advantage is my fabrication experience. I will likely end up buying the van and then building it out as I go.

that said, it is crazy how much thought goes into this, haha.

No way. It would be nice to meet up, though, as I’ve never been in a converted van, so it would be cool to get a real feel for the space.

I’d be happy to meet up halfway or something as we aren’t too far from each other.

How long did it take you to do yours?

Greetings!

Most van setup’s factory or DIY are missing one of my most important requirements, a comfortable place to work or lounge from. I love my Lazy Boy swivel rocker/recliner. I can even sleep in it if I feel like it. It’s kind of cramped in a van, but the comfort is really hard to beat. Since I both live in and work from in my vehicle, that makes it extra important for me.

Cheers!


"A wise man learns from both the successes & failures of others." ~ Off Grid


yeah my main thing is keeping my current work set up i have right now.

ill be going the cargo van route personally. i have hated the layouts of everything ive seen so i have a good ideal of what i want to build now its about planning and getting a build budget in place.

Greetings!

I would give some very serious thought before going with a cargo van. Cargo van dwellers are usually very short term. Very few people enjoy living in a windowless box. When I tried it, it sucked big time, and I hear the same from others ALL THE TIME!

Cheers!


"A wise man learns from both the successes & failures of others." ~ Off Grid


I’d definitely start with most basic setup only building as you go once you get the sense of things.

This year I decided to give up on my RV flush toilet, mostly, and go composing route - want to minimize trips to the dump, water tank filling and winterization concerns if I have to dump all water out for the freezing spell.
I wanted to travel in RV shower and flush toilet being desired features and here I go not using them at all while full timing.

As to modifying class C: if you change anything factory you destroy its resell value in most cases. People and dealers who buy class c avoid anything with modifications

I’m still in the learning stages myself, so it’s good to be on a similar page. My first mistake was buying a van that was an ex mobile mechanics vehicle. So I wouldn’t recommend one of these as there was so much grease and oil to clean out of it, and they had filled the floor with holes that I am going to be filling soon. It also had beacons on the roof that were very poorly attached so rust has been a bit of an issue though not as bad considering the state of some Mercedes sprinters. I don’t know if this helps, but thought I would share the limited experience I have had with the build so far haha.

I’ve ruled out a C class, so I won’t have to worry about that. It’s down to a transit van and a Promaster.

I was leaning towards the Transit, but the Promaster looks to be a bit wider on the inside and better to build in. Also, I have heard that the turning radius in the Promaster is better.

I haven’t driven a Promaster but years back, I drove a transit van once in Chicago, the biggest one that wasn’t much fun, haha.

I was a mechanic for a short while, so I can only imagine how beat-up/dirty it can be.

I’m looking at doing this for at least three years, so I will likely pay more for a lower-mileage van. Get the main systems in place and do the finishing work, as I have a better layout idea.

I’m very deep in the research and planning stage. I likely have at least six months before I can even look at buying a van, but I am getting a feel for what’s out there, so I know what I need vs what I want.